In this article you will find several feedbacks from users of the LIFT-MTB pedal motor kit.
As promised the pictures of the Orceyrette.The kit is really great! I adapted very quickly. I would have to manage the battery a little better. At the end of my outing I started the red bar.Small point that I noted, provide a good backpack… mine lacerates the shoulders with the weight of the battery. The straps are not padded.On the downhill, it didn’t change anything to my bike, I even enjoyed it more!Really great!
I have had the mtb lift engine for 1 1/2 years. It was for a bike taf and city. I was looking for adaptable and robust.Since then, the engine has been used on three bikes. The first two were Vtc with 700 wheels, and because of the power of the engine we tended to load with the races and the child trailer, so it lacked safety.Since then I bought at Salamandre cycles a semi-cargo bike based on Surly in 26 inches with alfine8 hubs.I now have an electric bike that fits my needs perfectly, I sometimes go to the lake 15km away with 2 children on the bike, the third in the trailer and all the change. Without forcing!I live in the Alps and we climb a few small passes together on the bike (120kg). Just grind and the engine pulls without flinching.I made a system of attachment on the frame with a stainless steel collar. The motor is fixed and does not move a millimeter.To conclude, this engine allowed me to test several bike configurations and find a unique bike that fits me perfectly. Simplicity, sturdiness and adaptability are the qualities I like in this kit.I like to put my hands in the mechanics but I have my limits, and Mathieu from lift mtb was always there by mail or phone to help me in my assemblies. This is very reassuring.
Hello,
A first return:
Used to riding without a bag, the battery in the Camel is not my first choice for most of my rides. But we have to admit that the battery on the frame, it weighs down the front wheel.
I slipped a scale under my front wheel and I have almost 1kg more displayed with the battery on the frame. And yesterday, I scared myself when I passed a hole in the road downhill and I was not good because I lifted the front wheel of just 2 or 3cm. Fortunately, a Fat is very forgiving to the rider, and I passed without a boo-boo, but it was close. Anyway, I’ll have to think about taking the battery in the backpack more often.
I’m still working on a battery holder on the frame to protect the battery from the mud. In winter, the “light” enduro spot next to my house is impracticable because of sticky clay, and we ride a few kilometers away, in a much more “peaceful” forest, but where the mud is “rideable”.
Findings and Modifications:
First of all, the control screen.
It is very useful to estimate with precision the remaining battery, because the 3 lights are not relevant enough, especially the last one, the red one, to know how much “juice” is left in the battery in order to adjust the assistance and/or thetrigger outputThe battery holder
Still under consideration and testing. I already have my own fixing system based on the two screws of the bottle cage (the scratch is only there to maintain the battery) and a hook on the bottom of the seat tube. I need to add a space for the connectors at the front and close it all. I received a 70 cm cable (repainted with red plasti-dip for a little more discretion) much more practical to connect the screen to the battery on the frame. It’s just the right sizeThe pedal sensor potentiometerI did well to take it. I use it very often. On long, uninteresting climbs, on paved roads, in the moors on flat but sandy roads, etc… in short, in all situations where you have to hold the trigger down for a long time, the pedal sensor is more practical.
a 20kg fat, you still have to bring it. even if it is feasible (I tested a pure muscular ride with motor in place and battery on the frame) it remains energy consuming.So I sometimes leave the pedaling sensor active at a low value, just so I don’t get exhausted too quickly.
On the nicer climbs (with a bit of riding/technique), the trigger is much better.
For me, the two means are complementary
Photos
A photo or two of the animal in its natural environment. In backpackless configuration.
Not having the ninja pouch+ bottle cage (with a saddle bag under the bottle cage) in addition to the 0.6L saddle bag, I had to put a rather large saddle bag (because of the fat spare tube) and find where to install the bottle.
The water bottle at this place, it’s not a good idea, when I put my foot on the ground, the water bottle dangerously brushes a very sensitive part of my anatomy 😋, and the saddle bag is not great. Some improvements are still needed in this configuration Sorry for the length of this email. I am an incorrigible talker.
Frédéric
Hello Matthieu.Simply perfect!Weight of the DH bike 24,100 kg … let’s be tolerant for this old descender from March 2006! (yeti 303 dh)Then, the pilot that I am took a big weight for a 3 figures, following my accident in bikepark!That said, the Lift-Mtb kit is doing great! On my usual local spot, Climb to descend, I pedaled about 3/4 of the time (or more) instead of maybe half the time without the kit!What motivates when you can push on the pedals despite the electric assistance!As a result, a 2h30 outing that I was happy to climb without “ruining” once at the top! And to “let off the brakes” on the way down!Now I just have to get back under the 2 digit mark for my weight and regain confidence in my downhill and freeride techniques because after my accident the “flip” is still very present!4 fractures of the tibia and 1 of the fibula have calmed me down. I was 44 years old at the time, now 48. I’ve been mountain biking since I was a teenager, including the last 15 years in dh and fr, for a personal pleasure unmatched in bike parks and local spots!Sportively.PatrickPs: if you want other pictures let me know?The last picture for fun…I love my DH Yeti !lol
Hi Matthew,
I’ve got the bete! I’m taking the liberty of making a return after my first two small outings: a small one last night to take it in hand and this morning before work to try to empty the battery.
First of all I want to say that I am really happy with the system, I still have my bike and that is very important and the first sensations are good;
First of all, you should know that I currently weigh 95 kilos which is not my ideal weight and that I have not ridden for a month and a half so I am out of shape.
Yesterday I did a test ride that I know by heart to get a feel for it with a small battery; indeed you don’t feel it at all, the bike remains almost the same and I even found that in some situations it was an advantage: small jumps, curves … Very healthy.
This morning I took the two 8.7ah batteries on board “hoping” to empty one of them … 28 km and 715 meters d+ later I didn’t manage to empty the first one.great!
…I compare my rides on strava, like you do on your website, and I realize that I’m doing well (I even caught some KOM)
Thank you for reading and I am really very happy with the LIFT!
Hello,
Some news following three days of raid between friends spent in the Massif Central and more exactly the Combrailles (north west of
Clermont-Ferrand).
the ground was well sprinkled or even soggy in places but we were very lucky: a few drops of rain at the end otherwise great sunshine and heat.
The goal for me was to accompany my friends who are much better trained than me but here I had my personal trainer: LIFT-MTB.
I don’t hide you that I was afraid to be a little bit fair… In addition we had an AE ATV on loan to try (a SUNN Finest),
In short I let say but confident after the first tests made around my home, I just had a fear at the level of autonomy because they had planned 65 kms with 1850 m of D+ to start!Well, everything went very well, the 11.6Ah battery took the 70 kms with 1800 m of D+ without flinching and it remained about 25%.
However, I had used the engine on all the steep hills and slopes to save my muscles.
And the hills were wild, gone at 25% … I passed everywhere even in the long muddy false flats where they all put their feet to
land!I say Bravo and Thank you. We bluffed them especially since the SUNN forfeited at 54 kms on the same circuit.
For the use that I wanted to make of it, it’s a real help in the bad hills and to be able to pedal muscularly on the hills and false flats not too steep and at the end to make the same circuits that
the buddies super trained without being rinsed with cramps in the end.
The next day we did 50 kms with 1400 m of D+ no problems.
Then we had again 70 kms with 1600 m of D+ and there I wanted
play to see how far it would go … yes I am a player.
I pushed a buddy into a very nasty hill I also had to use
the engine on lower revs, I also made the idiot and sprinted
with two fades on the largest development with motor on an end
of false … we finished at 35 kms and there is one who managed to hold me
but it was blown up for the next 10 kms!
In the end I felt that the power was decreasing and that I had to push the pedals a bit more in the last few bad patches.
I had about 10 to 15% left, but you can clearly feel that you’re in the middle of a long journey.
on the reserve, you really have to go to the bottom of the trigger on the last mm.
Here are the results of my live test on a very demanding field. your battery charts are therefore very realistic for
size the battery according to your needs.Otherwise I passed many times in fords more or less high, one of them being a limit but I had cut the engine.
The system is not waterproof but it is protected enough to be watered from time to time.
I will finish my report by saying once again BRAVO for having been able to finalize your system.Sportively,
Hello,
I’m giving you a little feedback after receiving the material.
At first, I had a little trouble with the presentation of the motor, but then everything went very quickly even the alignment of the crankset with the sprocket wheels were aligned without any problem.No problem encountered, a tightening blow, but really nothing. I’ve ridden more than a hundred kilometers and I’ve never gone below 50% of the battery level and I haven’t done a loop longer than 30km, so now I’m looking forward to know the possibilities in terms of autonomy.As far as speed is concerned, it’s very honourable and by pressing a little the engine is not solicited anymore. I think it’s great: 35 km/h and 39 km/h if you go to the bottom of the pedal.The motor does not heat up too much, I have a consumption in Ah of 5Ah to 8Ah which is rather correct according to the stat and which corresponds well to the diagram of consumption.My type of playground is the undergrowth trail and the coastal path.In summary, I love this bomb, it’s amazing!
Hello
Here is more than 3 years without sparing it on a giant trance x4 bike. No special maintenance.
I change the rear cassettes and chains but nothing on the engine.
Thanks to you. I ride my mountain bike and my road bike! The vtt with bikes at over 5000€ and they are all amazed at the power and autonomy. No effort in pedaling.
With the thumb throttle, you can pass the “rock” obstacles more easily without pedaling and hooking the pedals.
So much for your advertising.
No problem to try and see the kit!
Hello
Here is more than 3 years without sparing it on a giant trance x4 bike. No special maintenance.
I change the rear cassettes and chains but nothing on the engine.
Thanks to you. I ride my mountain bike and my road bike! The vtt with bikes at over 5000€ and they are all amazed at the power and autonomy. No effort in pedaling.
With the thumb throttle, you can pass the “rock” obstacles more easily without pedaling and hooking the pedals.
So much for your advertising.
No problem to try and see the kit!
Good evening Matthieu
In pj, qq photographs of the assembly of the kit on my vtt.
It took me a little while, but I wanted to do it right.
I kept the front derailleur and the handlebar control, I could put the throttle on the left without the derailleur control getting in the way, and I mounted the part that screws on the trigger, it’s more practical in my opinion…I tested it on a climb, it works, the battery doesn’t feel like it’s in the backpack….
you can pedal quietly without assistance when going uphill, and also not pedal when accelerating, cool…the mountain bike is a bit heavier but it carries well, it’s better than a commercial electric mountain bike that weighs way too much…I’ll be able to go in places identical to what I’m used to do, where there is sometimes short or long portage…I have a portage system that should still be able to be put on (PeakRider), it shouldn’t bother and the center of gravity shouldn’t have evolved with this setup
That’s it for the information.
Good evening and thank you for this nice kit
Your engine today ridiculed a Lapierre, Haibike and a specizialized on 40 kms.
More than two and a half that I use it in essonne by all the times and all the grounds. I install or remove it according to the type of wrinkles I have and the level of my riding partners. 👍 !
I’ve been using it for over a year now… and unlike a vae, it’s also the pleasure of riding freely without necessarily having continuous assistance, but only when I need it 😊
Hello Matthieu and all the LIFT MTB team; I would like to share with you my impressions on your product and your company. Well, I’m delighted! The front frame KIT installed on my 2009 Lapierre Spicy 516 gives me full satisfaction! What a pleasure to take the paths to the adventure knowing that we will have enough to overcome all the difficulties, to turn around if necessary, to increase the mileage of the exit if necessary. All this while using your muscle bike as much as you want (or can?). This kit is really a great concept! I would also like to thank you for your kindness and your availability during the ordering process as well as for the details provided during the assembly. Everything was perfect! I wish you good luck. And long live the LIFT MTB!
Excellent product. Very neat materials, it works very well, very fast assistance and always very available in case of doubt. Super super cool!
The best thing is that I couldn’t ride a mountain bike anymore, but with the engine I can ride everywhere, thanks to LIFT-MTB.
“Excellent product. very neat materials. works great. very fast support. always very available if in doubt. Super super cool”
Why 5 stars? Very well designed and powerful system. Well integrated to the bike and easily adaptable to my Orbea Loki H10 which is still a great player despite the addition of the motor. Very responsive to questions and answers. Why this choice? I’m in a region where the climbs are worthy of the high mountains so the rides are too technical and physical for my level and there it’s 100% pleasure the big climbs turn into false flats but don’t go
believe that it is still a sport! Thank you Matthieu for this beautiful toy!
I have been using the kit for over 3 years without any problems. It has allowed me to climb countless hills, and to go down just as many!
Hello.
I attach a picture of the engine assembly on a LAPIERRE ZESTY 314 mountain bike.
I am very happy with the efficiency of the engine.
Hello,
I received your package on Friday, the kit can be assembled without any problem by following your detailed instructions.This morning we did a mountain bike ride and my wife is very satisfied, after 32 km of forest with very sandy areas and very little difference in altitude (250 m) the 11.2 AH battery has only lost 20 percent. I think that she has driven only 50 percent of the time with the assistance, that’s all the interest of your system, driving empty and flat is as easy as before despite the slight additional weightThe handling did not pose any problem to him.It remains for us to try soon on more pronounced slopes, the small rise tried not having posed difficulties that should go well.Congratulations on your work and the quality of the materials used.
Hello ,
Here is my feedback after 100km of practice:
The use is really pleasant, the fact that you can use the assistance only on demand is really a plus.
No more big and long climbs that put you in the red, the effort is “smoothed out”, leaving you more time to enjoy the descents.
The cardio becomes much more stable, the outings are more enjoyable. The differences in altitude are swallowed as if they were a joke and the ultra steep climbs remain steep but oh so much less trying!
No more road trips to grind, you can enjoy yourself at 35 km/h with road bikes!As for autonomy, the 14Ah battery seems to me inexhaustible, will have to increase the DH and, or the distance.
I tried the battery on the frame (in a pannier) => heavy bike, not very handy, it moves and it’s not very waf..
then I switched to the bag => it’s a bit heavier in the back but it’s almost transparent for the one who usually rides with a bag (2l of water + tools).I had the surprise to come across two lifts in one month, the users are delighted with it and have not experienced any particular problems (about 1 and a half years of use). The kit is a sensation with the curious who are often surprised by the quality of the finish!
I can’t wait to go out with other “standard” VTTAEs to compare.
Thank you for this excellent product, hope to see more and more of them!
Feedback on the LIFT-MTB V3 kit on a 2014 Specialized FSR Comp Carbon 29 StumpjumperKit ordered on Monday, October 14, 2019, received and assembled on Tuesday, October 22, 2019.1st outing Saturday 26/10 (20km 575mD+, 7Ah)
2nd outing Sunday 27/10 (29km, 740mD+, 9Ah)Some modifications after the 1st outing:
Installation of a Serflex collar (as indicated on page 6 of the assembly instructions) because the motor had moved slightly to the rear.
Tighten the 3 BTR screws on the ISCG studs. (disassemble the crankset to do this).No problems with the chains, no derailment. Tighten the crank bolts as recommended.Concerning the installation of the crankset, I had to put a clamp on the right side in addition to the washers, so that the crankset axle is perfectly centered.
No friction. The 2nd clamp on the left as indicated in the instructions.The most time-consuming part is adjusting the alignment of the motor pinion with the chainring, but the manual is perfectly clear on this subject.The most tedious part is the definition of the number of washers needed for the tensioner, you have to go over it several times, it’s not practical.
note that I could not put a support pad on the right, there was no room.
I placed a self-adhesive foam pad provided in the kit between the plate and the bottom tube of the frame.I tried both positions for the throttle lever. My final choice has not been made. On long straight climbs I wonder if the cruise control (Pedelec) would not be suitable.
As soon as it will be available I think I will buy it from you (PF30 case).I find the (optional) control screen very useful but, unless I am mistaken, there is no data backup.
It’s a pity, because as soon as I unplug, and with the battery in the backpack it happens regularly, I lose the average consumption information.the MTB is equipped with a small cassette at the rear 11/36 10 speeds (there were 2 chainrings at the front, Sram S-1250 22 x 36).
I will probably be tempted by a SUNRACE CSMS3 11/46 as suggested on the site.
After 2 outings I am surprised by the low power consumption. Outings carried out with the 17.4 Ah battery in the backpack.
1st outing 20km, 10 Ah left
2nd outing 29 km, 8 Ah remained.
I am not a sportsman (61 years old 85kg)Thank you for your product, which I will definitely recommend to my friends.Sincerely.
Pascal a customer happy with the v3 engine on a BMC TRAILFOX
Hello Mathieu
I did my first ride today and it went really well and the motor power is well adapted, I still consumed 30% of the 11.6ah battery capacity on 20 KM with 350 meters of difference in altitude and that without having the pedal sensor.
Hello Matthieu.
I am very happy to be one of your LIFT-MTB customers, thank you for your patience, thank you for sharing your professional knowledge.
This has allowed me to visit your professional sports career, I say bravo.
I will send you pictures and very positive comments, I am very pleased with the LIFT-MTB motor kit mounted on my KONA HEI HEI TRAIL, or I can make the difference with the BAFANG 48V 750w motor kit mounted on my TOMAC 98 pro.
Sincerely
Jean Pierre
Hello, engine mounted last weekend. I enclose some pictures. Easy enough to assemble, now I can’t wait to test it as soon as the temperatures rise a bit… This is really nice stuff!
Hello Matthieu, I’m here to give you some news about the assembly and use of the engine kit. Attached you will find some pictures of my equipped ATV. I had a knee operation (meniscus) almost 2 months ago; the engine assistance allows me to push less on the hills and relieves me because I’m still in reeducation… great… only happiness.
Good evening,
I am taking the liberty of contacting you to give you a little report after a week of using the LIFT MTB.
I’ll start with the negative, because there is only one!
The gas pedal is slightly lacking in progressiveness at the end of the stroke.
But I think it’s a shot in the dark.
For the rest, it is only happiness !!!!!!
Easy dosing of the gas pedal on the first 3 quarters.
Power available Flexibility Autonomy of madness.
I’m not in great shape, but with a 16000 mha battery and my 123 kg I managed to cover more than 60 kms and 1500 meters of positive altitude difference.
Last point. Your very quick response to each of my emails.
Thanks again, and count on me to give you a good publicity.
Olivier
Hi Matthew,Sorry for my late reply.
-1- First name : CLEMENT
-2- Weight / height : 30 years old, 1m87, 85kg –
-3- Bike : Commencal meta V4 race 2016
-4- Battery type: 14.5Ah / 522W / 2.5Kg –
5- Performance generally achieved by output. (km/d+): I do 25/30kms per outing for 800 to 1200 of D+ depending on the sectors.
-6- Comments / opinions
As a former motorcycle enduro rider, I’m going back to cycling more in line with the constraints we all know today.
And what a great discovery this MTB lift system is! After a test ride with a friend who had already equipped his bike, I contact Matthieu, always available to meet you and confirm my first impression.
What a pleasure to be able to launch into the singles and the discovery of new tracks without having to worry about going back up, the playground expands considerably and the climbs become a simple formality!
Summer is coming, no problem, 10minutes and I find my original meta for the stations.
The MTB lift system allows you to have 2 bikes in 1.
A Parisian customer very happy with the lift-mtb electric kit
“Attached are pictures of my Specialized Stumpjumper FSR 29′ bike equipped with your Kit.
Currently in the difficult conditions of Essonne in winter my rides are on average 40 km for 500m d+ and I consume hardly 20% of battery capacity (8.5 Ah). I charge it every four outings or so.I hope you have a great holiday season!”
so 160 km and 2000 meters of D+ with a battery of 1.5kg
I come to give news. (Specialized Enduro 2016) a little disappointed at first by the lack of power (I imagined replacing my bike)
For the use, at the beginning I wanted to go up to full speed, but even without forcing, it turns too fast for me. I would get out of breath and stop to recover. I was riding fast but I drained the battery.
So I tried to consume as little as possible and that’s when I saw all the interest of the engine.
I’m a little above my normal speed but I can climb anything and I get to the top feeling dead.
Even if I thought I could climb the walls more easily than this, I can climb them and then I have to shit a little.
So I ride as indicated on your board. 1200 meter minimum drop (11.6ah battery) for a smoker who pushes everything he can. in addition I go up by the path
I am very satisfied with my purchase.
Hi, I’ve been rolling in grease a lot lately. The battery capacity (14.5ah) seems to be sufficient for my use. With the mud, I derailed a few times on the descent, I will see with drier conditions to confirm if I need to add a top guide. There was some mud and leaves around the trays, maybe that’s why… Overall, I am very happy with the engine, the range, the power is sufficient. For the moment, I don’t regret to have taken a 34T chainring and it will be more obvious when I will be able to ride on dry roads ;)
Good evening, After a few mountain bike rides, I wanted to let you know that I was happy with my purchase. I was also able to compare it to other kits I have installed myself for several family members and for very different needs. I make you a small return ;-) – an OZO 750W kit with a 500Wh enduro rear wheel battery on a 26 inches semi-rigid for a 90% road and 10% trail use. My companion wishing to pedal in the void ^^ => really interesting price (1200€), acceptable autonomy (85km approximately), but ultra high weight (+12kilo) – since recently a Cycloboost BBS02 750w kit with 700wh battery ^^ for 50/ 50 use on a full suspension. My father is delighted with this purchase, he takes again taste for the bicycle ;-) => high speed, good finish, quiet, well equipped, but ground clearance too low + acceptable weight (+4.5Kilo + battery). Good value for money (1500€) – and finally your kit (version 2) with a 522Wh battery for 70% hiking / 30% road/trail. I am very satisfied with this purchase, I was looking for a kit that allows me to follow others without assistance and used during difficult passages or during a slack period, it allows me to exceed my limits.